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    Listen: What Will It Take to Get to Herd Immunity?

    One way to slow down the pandemic
    Jul 11, 2020 5 minutes
    Source: NIAID / The Atlantic

    Absent a treatment or vaccine, the coronavirus won’t stop spreading until we reach herd immunity. On this episode of the podcast Social Distance, James Hamblin details what we know and don’t know about how to get there.

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    What follows is an edited and condensed transcript of their conversation.

    Katherine Wells: Hey Jim, what have you been thinking about?

    James Hamblin: Something I don’t know much about, which is complex mathematics—specifically chaos theory.

    Wells: Why have you been looking into chaos theory?

    Hamblin: I’m trying to understand why there is so much variation in what we’re seeing with COVID-19 and, I guess, how this all ends.

    My understanding from

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