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Podcast: Is It Over?

Our pandemic podcast is ending, though the pandemic hasn’t ended around the world.
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Though the coronavirus continues to spread around the world, the end appears to be in sight in the United States. And with that hopeful end, this will mark the last episode of Social Distance.

James Hamblin, Maeve Higgins, and returning co-host Katherine Wells gather to say goodbye to the show, reflect on what we’ve learned these past 15 months, and listen to voicemails from past guests.

Listen to their conversation here:


What follows is a transcript of their conversation and voicemails, edited and condensed for clarity:

Maeve Higgins: We have a voicemail from Dr. Stephen Thomas that I’d love to listen to.

James Hamblin: Yeah, he was one of my sources early in the pandemic talking about disaster preparedness. And then, coincidentally, he ended up becoming the coordinating principal investigator for the Pfizer-vaccine clinical trial and kept me updated on that throughout.

Hi, this is Dr. Stephen Thomas calling. I’m a

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