The Atlantic

How to Keep Watch

Capturing reality is harder than it seems.
Source: Illustration by The Atlantic. Source: Os Tartarouchos / Getty.

With smartphones in our pockets and doorbell cameras cheaply available, our relationship with video as a form of proof is evolving. We often say “pics or it didn’t happen!”—but meanwhile, there’s been a rise in problematic imaging including deepfakes and surveillance systems, which often reinforce embedded gender and racial biases. So what is really being revealed with increased documentation of our lives? And what’s lost when privacy is diminished?

In this episode of How to Know What’s Real, staff writer Megan Garber speaks with Deborah Raji, a Mozilla fellow, whose work is focused on algorithmic auditing and evaluation. In the past, Raji worked closely with the Algorithmic Justice League initiative to highlight bias in deployed AI products.

Listen to the episode here:

Listen and subscribe here: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts

The following is a transcript of the episode:

Andrea Valdez: You know, I grew up as a Catholic, and I remember the guardian angel was a thing that I really loved that concept when I was a kid. But then when I got to be, I don’t know, maybe around seven or eight, like, your guardian angel is always watching you. At first it was a comfort, and then it turned into kind of like a: Are they watching me if I pick my nose? Do they watch me?

Megan Garber: And are they watching out for me, or are they just watching me?

Valdez: Exactly. Like, are they my guardian angel or my surveillance angel? Surveillance angel.

Valdez: I’m Andrea Valdez. I’m an editor at The Atlantic.

Garber: And I’m Megan Garber, a writer at The Atlantic. And this is How to Know What’s Real.

Garber: I just got the most embarrassing little alert from my watch. And it’s telling me that it is, quote, “time to stand.”

Valdez: Why does it never tell us that it’s time to lie down?

Garber: Right. Or time to just, like, go to the beach or something? And it’s weird, though, because I’m realizing I’m having these intensely conflicting emotions about it. Because in one way, I appreciate the reminder. I have been sitting too long; I should probably stand up. But I don’t also love the feeling of just sort of being casually judged by a piece of technology.

Valdez: No, I understand. I get those alerts, too. I know it very well. And you know, it tells you, “Stand up; move for a minute. You can do it.” Uh, you know, you can almost hear it going, like, “Bless your heart.”

“Bless your lazy little heart.” The funny thing, too, about it is, like, I find myself being annoyed, but then I also fully recognize that

You’re reading a preview, subscribe to read more.

More from The Atlantic

The Atlantic5 min read
Jill Biden’s Momentous Choice
This weekend, first lady Jill Biden has a momentous choice to make. Does she encourage her husband to overlook his personal well-being, recover from last week’s debate debacle, and keep up the campaign until November? Or does she persuade him to step
The Atlantic2 min read
Being In The Sun
This is an edition of The Wonder Reader, a newsletter in which our editors recommend a set of stories to spark your curiosity and fill you with delight. Sign up here to get it every Saturday morning. Walking on the beach on the Fourth of July, I witn
The Atlantic5 min read
What Color Is a Hot Dog?
This is an edition of The Atlantic Daily, a newsletter that guides you through the biggest stories of the day, helps you discover new ideas, and recommends the best in culture. Sign up for it here. Two years ago, I had a conversation that I have thou

Related Books & Audiobooks