Participation With Christ: Interviews With Douglas Campbell
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The e-book contains edited transcripts of four interviews with Douglas Campbell, done for the video series You're Included. He discusses what it means for us to be "in Christ," to participate with Christ, and the seriousness of sin. He also discusses his large book on Romans, titled The Deliverance of God.
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Participation With Christ - Douglas Campbell
Participation With Christ
Interviews With Douglas Campbell
Copyright 2016 Grace Communion International
Published by Grace Communion International
Table of Contents
Our Participation With Christ
Sin and Its Seriousness
In Christ – Conversion and Calling
Understanding the Book of Romans
About the Publisher…
Grace Communion Seminary
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Introduction
This is a transcript of interviews conducted as part of the You’re Included series, sponsored by Grace Communion International. We have more than 130 interviews available. You may watch them or download video or audio at https://learn.gcs.edu/course/view.php?id=58. Donations in support of this ministry may be made at https://www.gci.org/online-giving/.
Grace Communion International is in broad agreement with the theology of the people we interview, but GCI does not endorse every detail of every interview. The opinions expressed are those of the interviewees. We thank them for their time and their willingness to participate.
Please understand that when people speak, thoughts are not always put into well-formed sentences, and sometimes thoughts are not completed. In the following transcripts, we have removed occasional words that did not seem to contribute any meaning to the sentence. In some cases we could not figure out what word was intended. We apologize for any transcription errors, and if you notice any, we welcome your assistance.
Our guest in these interviews is Dr. Douglas A. Campbell, Professor of New Testament at Duke Divinity School in Durham, North Carolina. He received his PhD in 1989 from the University of Toronto. He is the author of:
The Call to Serve: Biblical and Theological Perspectives on Ministry in Honour of Bishop Penny Jamieson(editor)
The Deliverance of God: An Apocalyptic Rereading of Justification in Paul
Framing Paul: An Epistolary Biography
Paul: An Apostle’s Journey
Pauline Dogmatics: The Triumph of God’s Love
The Quest for Paul’s Gospel
The Rhetoric of Righteousness in Romans 3:21-26
Four Views on the Apostle Paul(contributor)
The interviews were conducted by J. Michael Feazell, then vice-president of Grace Communion International, and Michael Morrison, Professor of New Testament at Grace Communion Seminary.
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Our Participation With Christ
Welcome to this interview series devoted to practical implications of Trinitarian theology. Our guest today is Douglas Campbell, Professor of New Testament at Duke Divinity School. Dr. Campbell is author of The Deliverance of God and The Quest for Paul’s Gospel.
J. Michael Feazell: Thanks for being here.
Douglas Campbell: You’re welcome.
JMF: I would like to talk about your book, The Quest for Paul’s Gospel, or at least some of the concepts that are in it. But I’d like to start by talking about the cover (it’s a unique cover), and if you could tell us about how that came about and what the meaning of some of these symbols are on it.
DC: Well, this is the secret to the book. You have to be nice about the cover because it was designed by my wife.
JMF: Very good.
DC: I think it was very funky. She’s a very funky woman. Buried in the collage are codes about what I’m talking about in the book, so my students always pick it up and have a chuckle. At the top, there are two boxes and the arrow, A to B. Most people have a theory about how Paul gets you from Box A to Box B. Box B is where you want to go. But there are lots of different theories about how you set up Box A and Box B and how you get from one to the other. Some of these theories can get in the way of what Paul is often doing.
But the model that I like, that I really push for in this book, is sneaking through the middle here. It uses these letters. You’ve got two Ps and then an M and an E going around the corner. What I’m getting at there is that, I think Paul’s gospel is all about P for participation, and E is for eschatology, which is one of those wonderful words you should use at a cocktail party from time to time. Meaning, there’s a sense in which God has brought to us a new reality, a perfected reality, which is superior to the one that we’re occupying. In Christ, he’s managed to organize things so we participate in it in Christ.
How does that work? I think Paul tells us about this in some detail, particularly in Romans 6, but also with insights from Romans 7 and Romans 5, a little bit going on in Romans 8, but Romans 6 is really where it happens. What seems to have happened in Paul’s mind is: Christ has entered our situation, the human situation, which is good, but there’s a sense in which we’re oppressed, and disordered (and fractured even) by evil powers. The power of Sin (Paul effectively spells that with a capital S—the power of Death, capital D). These demonic forces have unfortunately taken up residence in the stuff that we’re constituted out of (our flesh), so that we’re transient, we’re corruptible, we decay, we sin, and we die.
This is a very heavy burden for humanity