Mark Godley. He has held leadership positions at technology companies of all different sizes from pre-revenue to publicly traded. He’s best known for driving revenue and outpacing industry growth while rejecting herd mentality. Outside of work, Mark finds time daily to read, work-out, and cook—all the while, being an engaged father, spouse, and citizen. Famous Five: Favorite Book? – The Devil in the White City What CEO do you follow? –  Henry Schuck and Yonatan Stern Favorite online tool? — Flipboard, Stitcher, GaggleAMP and Lead Forensics Do you get 8 hours of sleep?— No If you could let your 20-year old self, know one thing, what would it be? – “Living below your means gives you tons of options. Think about the life you want at age 50 and work backwards. We’re running a marathon not a sprint, and it takes planning, sacrifice and resilience and then, don’t define success and happiness by your paycheck”   Time Stamped Show Notes: 01:42 – Nathan introduces Mark to the show 02:25 – HG Data is in a competitive and intelligent space 02:35 – HG Data build data sets, used by sales and marketing teams, to do precision targeting at scale 03:05 – The founder founded HG Data in 2012 after an exit 03:43 – Mark is the Chief Revenue Officer (CRO) at HG Data 04:02 – Mark handles all the market phasing for the company 04:31 – When HG Data was founded it served the enterprise space 04:49 – Last year is when they started to go down market 04:58 – Number of enterprise clients is 15-20 with 6-figure ARR 05:15 – HG Data had traditional customers, as well, that totaled 50 05:58 – HG Data transitioned from a data company to a product company 06:12 – Total ASP 06:50 – HG Data wants to increase the customer base, but lower the RPU 07:56 – HG Data created a use-space specific databases 08:19 – HG Data tries to keep the balance of enterprise and down market pricing 08:34 – 50% of the revenue is from direct clients and 50% is from the partners 09:22 – Mark shares what he is worried about in regards to their target 10:09 – Mark shares how their partners use their data 10:55 – Average pay per user annually 12:05 – There are 10-50 OEMs in the customer base 12:37 – Average number of customers 13:00 – Mark only follows ARR and not MRR 13:27 – Mark shares that they are focused on building the new space—they are currently spending and losing money by design, but hoping for a positive cash flow 14:00 – Gross annual customer churn is less than 10% 14:30 – “We’ve had one 6-figure churn in the last 4 years” 14:40 – CAC 15:23 – “We’re looking for a more high-velocity sales model” 16:13 – The company is based in Santa Barbara, where they have 80 employees 16:42 – Connect with Mark through Twitter and LinkedIn 18:40 – The Famous Five   3 Key Points: “We’re running a marathon, not a sprint, and it takes planning, sacrifice, and resilience.” Be mindful of your partners BEFORE making decisions. Live without regrets.   Resources Mentioned: Acuity Scheduling – Nathan uses Acuity to schedule his podcast interviews and appointments Drip – Nathan uses Drip’s email automation platform and visual campaign builder to build his sales funnel Toptal – Nathan found his development team using Toptal for his new business Send Later. He was able to keep 100% equity and didn’t have to hire a co-founder due to the quality of Toptal Host Gator – The site Nathan uses to buy his domain names and hosting for the cheapest price possible. Audible – Nathan uses Audible when he’s driving from Austin to San Antonio (1.5-hour drive) to listen to audio books. The Top Inbox  – The site Nathan uses to schedule emails to be sent later, set reminders in inbox, track opens, and follow-up with email sequences Jamf – Jamf helped Nathan keep his Macbook Air 11” secure even when he left it in the airplane’s back seat pocket @Mgodley21 – Mark’s Twitter handle LinkedIn – Mark’s LinkedIn account Show Notes provided by Mallard Creatives