Susan Giles and Jeff Carter meet Jesse and Brian for a warm conversation on a cold day. Giles and Carter constitute two-thirds (the third third being BAS friend Faheem Majeed) of a wonderful new show at the Chicago Cultural Center until January 6th. We talk IKEA, gesticulation and gesture, modernism, cultural erasure, scale, materials, architecture, tedium and more, more, more on this episode of Bad at Sports. Jeff Carter Susan Giles Cultural Center