Today on Obsessed Show I'm chatting with the co-hosts of the Biz Buds podcast, Tom Ross and Mike Janda For those of you long time listeners, Tom Ross may sound familiar, because he's amongst the small number of guests who have been on the show more than once, and today is #3 for Mr. Ross, who is a coach & cheerleader for creative entrepreneurs and the CEO of Design Cuts, and incredibly popular Design Inspiration site with digital resources for designers. And he's also one of the hosts of the Honest Designer's Podcast who we featured two years ago on our list of the best design podcasts. And we also have Mike Janda on the line, who is not only the co-host of the Biz Buds Podcast, but is also a coach, and the author of Burn Your Portfolio and The Psychology of Graphic Design Pricing. So without further ado, please enjoy this conversation with Tom Ross and Mike Janda: ::::: This episode is sponsored by the new season of Wireframe, from Adobe XD. ::::: If you’re listening to Obsessed Show, there’s a pretty great chance that you love design and technology too, so I think you’re really going to dig Wireframe. It’s a show about how UX can help technology fit our lives. You may remember when I interviewed Khoi Vinh, Senior Director of Design at Adobe a few years back. Well, Khoi is one smart dude, and he’s the host of Wireframe. This season, Wireframe digs into how the pandemic has changed our habits and lives, and how design intersects with these changes. I got a sneak preview into a few upcoming episodes, and I loved how they were digging into real-life design issues, like why can’t dad unmute himself on Zoom, and how COVID-19 is changing how designers think and solve problems. Also, they’re going to be featuring design leaders who have built UX and UI experiences for companies like Headspace, Patreon, Kickstarter, and more... So check it out! Search for Wireframe in your favorite podcast app. Subscribe here: https://link.chtbl.com/wireframe?sid=podcast.obsessedshow  Thanks again to Wireframe from Adobe XD for sponsoring today’s episode. Mentioned in today’s episode: Subscribe to Wireframe here: https://link.chtbl.com/wireframe?sid=podcast.obsessedshow  Tom’s first episode of Obsessed Show: https://www.obsessedshow.com/episodes/tom-ross-part-one Part II: https://www.obsessedshow.com/episodes/tom-ross-design-cuts-episode2 https://www.instagram.com/tomrossmedia/ https://mailchi.mp/842e03392c0a/ultimateguidetoniching https://www.designcuts.com/ https://podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/biz-buds/id1496156524 https://www.instagram.com/morejanda/ http://michaeljanda.com/