"Off Message" presents Episode 3 of the new season of POLITICO's podcast
"Global Translations": 

The pandemic and the rise of China are prompting Republicans and
Democrats to turn to government power to grow industries important to
America’s security and place in the world. “Industrial policy” is an
idea long reviled among Washington policymakers. Hosts Luiza Savage and
Ryan Heath talk to the people trying to make industrial policy cool
again.

Luiza Savage is the host of "Global Translations".
Ryan Heath is a host of "Global Translations". 
Annie Rees is a producer for POLITICO Audio. 
Kara Tabor is a producer for POLITICO Audio. 
Jenny Ament is the senior producer for POLITICO Audio. 
Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO Audio.
Jennifer Harris  is a sentior fellow at the Hewlett Foundation, formerly
at the US State Department during the Obama administration.
Mariana Mazzucato is an internationally recognized economist and
professor at University College London (UCL), and Founder/Director of
UCL's Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose.
Check out and subscribe to POLITICO's Global Translations, and China
Watcher newsletters. Read Luiza Savage's article on the new industrial
policy emerging in the US to counter China's ascent.
Global Translations newsletter:
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/global-translations
China Watcher newsletter:
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-china-watcher

POLITICO article:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/04/china-us-economy-industrial-policy-global-translation-433954