This Thursday, Sami is joined by Betches’ Senior Director of Podcasts, Sean Kilby. They discuss gaining 40 pounds, getting into working out, and why working out sometimes doesn’t actually make you feel better. They also discuss starting to love vegetables, if working out can actually be a hobby, and why relief is the best feeling. Next they read a listener non-scale win about taking the time to recover after getting surgery. Finally, the hosts share their NSWs, including one about taking your vacation days and making the most of your trip, and another about being comfortable being on TV for the first time in a bigger body.