This week, we kick off the show with an interview featuring Roger Grimes, Data-Driven Defense Evangelist, KnowBe4, who joins to discuss the Evolution and Maturity of the Cybersecurity Industry! Then, Matt Linton, Chaos Specialist at Google, joins to talk about What Exactly Is an Incident Commander, Anyway! In the Security News: Its still not illegal to look at HTML source code, Nobelium strikes again, npm infections, gas is cheap in Iran, if you can get it, Google Tensor, going beyond the transport layer with HTTPS, buying a power plan, EBCIDIC and GDPR, how children can infect parents, signing your rootkit, dates are hard, something smells funny and bird poop in your antenna!   Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/psw716 Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/psw for all the latest episodes!   Visit https://securityweekly.com/acm to sign up for a demo or buy our AI Hunter! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/securityweekly Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secweekly