This week on the podcast Eugene and Matt speak to Matt Rayment...huh? Yes, that’s right. Eugene finally gets revenge on Matt, who, having cruelly ambushed Eugene at the live show last year (in cahoots with Shaun “The Integrator” Collins), was never going to get away without being a guest on the podcast. What unfolds is a conversation much like what you would have heard if you’d ever been on the trails with them - but with less puffing. Matt, mental health nurse, accomplished musician (eg playing with The Sneaks at Big Day Out), former editor of KTR, and, most importantly, husband and father of three delightful kids - yes, Rigby, and an Australian Kelpie - opens up about how running saved his life. He generously talks very candidly about how illness as a child afflicted him, the impact that had, and how he found comfort in hanging out with people who are out of step, just as he feels out of step with the world. The story of his path to running ultra-marathons (beginning with a 200m gravel stretch of driveway) is inspirational. Enjoy.