Kia Ora Whānau. “For our first episode of Dirt Church Radio we are privileged to sit down with Paul Charteris, the founder of Tarawera Ultramarathon …” That was three years and 145 episodes ago. Things have changed a bit in the intervening years, but having Paul Charteris back on the podcast was even more rewarding, interesting, and engaging than the first time. We speak of life post Tarawera, the transition from trail daddy to regular dad of two children, his work with the Kawerau District Douncil on a new trail network, owning a farm cottage retreat,  and his ongoing involvement in the race that took up over a decade of his life. We discuss the worldwide scene post-pandemic, the UltraTrail World Tour, UTMB, IRONMAN, a wonderful GRE and bonus Colin.  Enjoy.