In this episode Sarah talks with journalist and author of Four Thousand Weeks, time and how to use it, Oliver Burkeman. Together they discuss why we need to redefine our relationship with time, and what makes this so hard. They discuss why some obvious answers to improving how you spend your time don't work and what we can try instead. This Ask the Expert series is supported by the Uncertainty Experts. You can find out more and sign up to be part of series one here: https://uncertaintyexperts.com/. Listeners can use the code 'Squiggly' to get a discount on tickets. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.