If you follow my Instagram, Facebook or Twitter feed, you know that I'm a monome fan. Brian Crabtree and Kelli Cain have created company that consistently nails both the functionality and the design factors that draw me in - and that seems to be the case with a lot of people. They not make great products, but they tend to drive the industry in new directions. Recently, monome put out a new device that has really captured my attention: the norns. This is a standalone computing device, based off of Raspberry Pi technology, but fine-tuned for music making, creative coding and all-around media art fun. I was very excited to talk to Brian about the development - and actuality - of the norns device. But there's another change in the world since our last discussion (200 episodes ago - podcast #47): the popularity of the lines community. Lines (llllllll.co). It was just starting when we last talked, now it is one of my favorite online hangouts. Whether talking about code, music or books, this community is loaded with interesting, engaged and damned-smart people. All of this is available thanks to the monome team. Thanks to them, and I hope that you enjoy our discussion. Cheers!