In this weeks podcast we talked with David Wang about how palliative care can join forces with the emergency department to improve care for the serious ill. This conversation was motivated in part by a recent expert consensus statement on key knowledge and skills standards about hospice and palliative medicine for emergency medicine providers. What should the core training be? How do emergency providers feel about palliative care? How can palliative care services that are typically available bankers hours work with the emergency department, open 24-7?