This week, we're excited to chat with Jefferson Waful, Lighting Designer for Umphrey's McGee and Producer for CID Entertainment (and a long time Phish fan). This was a really fun conversation, chatting with Jefferson about his career, lighting, the jam band scene, and of course his Phish journey. We also talked about and included some music from one of Jefferson's favorite shows, 12.31.93. We included lots of tracks from that. Please enjoy! Please subscribe and review us on iTunes and follow us on Twitter. Also like us on Facebook. And check out CashorTrade for face value tickets to shows across the country. If you are on Stitcher, give us a review. Intro Music: Punch Brothers, "Don't Need No" Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.