Guest host, Jordan Perez, got a chance to catch up with semifinalist Derek Hitchner, a fifth-year at Pepperdine whose successes in golf have been a bit of an uphill battle. Growing up in Minnesota, Derek spent a lot of his junior career overlooked but landed an offer from Pepperdine. Initially, Derek didn’t receive a ton of playing opportunities – including having been left out of the National Championship team lineup in 2021, but ever since his game has only blossomed. We talk overcoming that, his week at the U.S. Amateur, and his mastery at not just match play, but Catan. Yes, the board game Catan. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.