Join Gavin and Callum for a chat about the latest in athletics, including the 'Ingebrigtsen 5km road race' and what differences the latest running shoes make to performance. In their own training Callum attempted a solo 10k time trial later to find out he had just edged inside Gavin's pb of 31.06. It looks like a race might be on the cards ? Gavin discusses his return from injury and the fluctuations in motivation he has experienced during 'lock down' as a result of not being able to run. The team delve further into the topic of motivation when they are joined by Coach Hugo van den Broek from his home in Iten who sheds some light on how to train at your best even when you lack the motivation to do so - an issue encountered even by the most elite athletes in the world.