**Part 1 of 2**

Andy is here for a fascinating conversation with Professor Robin Hanson, an academic & intellectual look at Alien civilisations ,they discuss;

Grabby Aliens
Academic approach to aliens & UFO's
Loud v quiet civilisations
How long till we take our place amongst the stars?
Independent efforts to find other intelligent life

Check Robins site for paper & blog https://grabbyaliens.com/

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