If you're a regular listener of the show, you have probably heard us talk about and host ASAE, and you probably know that they are the American Society of Association Executives and their work is especially relevant to our audience. So we are pleased to welcome Rhonda Payne, ASAE's Chief Learning Officer to Through the Noise today. Though CLO is not a common position in many organizations at this time, it is particularly crucial for ASAE which is hosts a number of conferences every year while offering important trainings for the staff of a wide variety of associations. Ms. Payne is responsible for the development of all of the educational offerings of ASAE, including the on-demand courses that they now have available. Check out this episode for more on ASAE's work and how it can benefit yours today. ASAE is a membership organization of more than 21,000 association executives and industry partners representing 9,300 organizations. Its members manage leading trade associations, individual membership societies and voluntary organizations across the United States and in nearly 50 countries around the world.