This conversation centers on the arguments and findings of the a16z piece The Cost of Cloud, a Trillion Dollar Paradox. The Core Findings of The Cost of Cloud piece [5:22]Cloud is a significant part of COGS for public SaaS companies [8:38]Should you allocate engineers to reduce cloud cost or just focus on growth? [12:06]How much of a problem is not knowing cloud spend? [15:56]The tradeoff between focusing cost and engineering resources [19:33]Should large public SaaS companies repatriate? [23:41]Performance  matters -- it's not all about cost [31:55]Is all the talent for running data centers at the Google, AWS, and Azure? [37:46]Will the cloud feature set become commoditized? [44:57]Cloud oligopoly and market dynamics [50:39]Follow the a16z Club to join conversations with tech founders, builders, and leaders live and in-full.