A THREE HOUR PODCAST?! Believe it folks. This week, we're joined by someone who's been supporting John and Sol since before PoK even existed, Cole Cordell (@cordellandcordell), founder of Hot Product Studios (@hot.product.studios). Listen in as we talk about everything from how we met to what it's like designing a shirt that goes viral on TikTok. Thank you so much to Cole for joining us (for three hours!!!), and thank you to everyone for listening!