Dr. Frans de Waal is a world-renowned primatologist, most known for his work on the behavior and social intelligence of primates.  Dr. de Waal's first book, "Chimpanzee Politics" is considered one of the most influential works on the topic, and has since authored many other equally important books. He is really one of the great scientists of our time. In this episode, Dr. de Waal discusses his latest book, "Different: Gender Through the Eyes of a Primatologist" including defining the difference between "sex and "gender", if the toys children play with are socially constructed or biological determined, Donna the transgender chimp, alpha leadership and more! SHOW NOTES: https://www.animalsathomenetwork.com/129-frans-de-waal/