With heated debate on the deer working group report, and a potential sweeping shift in how we manage the Scottish landscape for deer, I am joined by ecologist Dr Linzi Seivwright, who has worked closely with local deer management groups over a number of years. Discussion drifts to cover other projects she has worked on, as we talk about grouse population cycles, kinship theory, the climate emergency, woodland restoration, temporal displacement of populations, and the need to have a landscape-scale approach with regard to management. We also delve into a species of crow previously thought to be extinct, and the re-discovery of a lost population of deer on a remote island.