In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton Chen continue to address themes and topics related to listener questions. Today, Dan and Rachael take on the question: How do I engage the relational debris of trauma? Whether you are on a healing journey yourself or are supporting a spouse, family, or friends, our hosts talk about how you can engage both the beauty and brokenness of stories of harm when you are not sure either how to receive or be a good support. Throughout their conversation, you’ll also hear Rachael and Dan address the obstacles to and cost of healing from trauma and how to love well in the midst of trauma.  Resources: Read “Honoring Our Embodied Trauma in the Midst of a Pandemic” by Rebekah Vickery Read “Racial Trauma: The Marks We Bear” by Wendell Moss Watch a video from The Allender Center about Obstacles to Healing