To be able to learn and gain knowledge, see the things that could change an entire industry and make it more transparent, that is what Patrik Berglund, CEO, and Co-Funder of Xeneta, is talking about in this the 79th episode of the Shipping Podcast. Hear him speak about the journey that took them from an idea to a success and what obstacles they had to face to reach the place where they are now, at the top of mind with both executives and venture capital.  Xeneta is an ocean freight rate benchmarking platform, crowdsources price comparison - in an industry that has been very close and secretive. This is a gamechanger and it's so encouraging to listen to Patrik describe how he sees the developments going forward. Thank you for listening, don't forget to recommend the episode to those that need to hear this. And please give a shout-out to Patrik at @Xeneta_AS and or me @lenagothberg