We recently spoke about the importance of user experience design, but how does this differ in a learning context? On this week's GoodPractice Podcast: Julie Dirksen, author of 'Design for How People Learn', joins Ross and James to explore the importance of 'desirable difficulty'. If you'd like to share your thoughts on the show, you can find Julie on Twitter @UsableLearning, Ross @RossGarnerGP and James @JamesMcLuckie. You can also tweet @GoodPractice or @GoodpracticeAus. If you'd like to find out more about our upcoming events, blogs and whitepapers, visit goodpractice.com. Julie has written about why 'clear and easy to understand' can be a bad thing at:http://usablelearning.com/2011/07/06/why-clear-and-easy-to-understand-can-be-bad/. She has also presented on UX for learning, which you can see here: https://www.slideshare.net/usablelearning/ux-for-learning-design. Finally, if you are interested in the conversation around Ericsson's work on deliberate practice, you can join the Facebook group at: https://www.facebook.com/groups/designforhowpeoplelearn/ . Remember, to be in with a chance of winning an Amazon Echo, leave a review on iTunes and send a screenshot of it to support@goodpractice.com. Full terms and conditions are available at https://s3.amazonaws.com/goodpractice-podcast/goodpractice-podcast-prize-draw-tcs.pdf. Next week, our guest is Martin Couzins, discussing journalism's tips for L&D.