Kim and Grandma Gail start the episode sharing what’s new in their lives, and this episode is being released on Kim’s 26th birthday! Then they get into their interview with workplace strategist Erica Keswin (@ericakeswin) who is the author of WSJ bestsellers ‘Rituals Roadmap’ and ‘Bring Your Human to Work’. She is also host of the podcast ‘Left to Our Own Devices’. They discuss how to have good company culture, how to approach conversations with a manager and diversity in the workplace. What happens when romance and work intertwine? Erica shares her insight on what to do about workplace crushes and what to do if your significant other is focused more on work than your relationship. Erica also introduces the idea of having a “ritual” and how helpful it can be in both your personal and professional life. 



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