Children are making the news in harrowing ways. As the international community commemorated World Refugee Day last month, images of kids in cages under Trump’s immigration policy went viral around the world. This week also marks five years of mandatory detention in Pacific islands for refugees who came to Australia by boat – including more than 100 children who remain on Nauru.In a world on the move, how do we ensure our policies don’t sacrifice child protection for border protection? Where do we draw the line between childhood and adulthood? And what does it mean for children to get the most out of life? On this week’s podcast, Maya Bhandari puts these questions to Paul Ronalds, CEO of Save the Children Australia.Paul Ronalds is CEO of Save the Children and former First Assistant Secretary for the Office of Work and Family in the Australian Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet.Show notes:The following podcasts were referred to in this episode:Diving into diversity: SimplecastPolicy Forum Pod is available on iTunes, Stitcher, and wherever you get your podcasts. We’d love to hear your feedback for this podcast series! Send in your questions, comments, or suggestions for future episodes to podcast@policyforum.net. You can also Tweet us @APPSPolicyForum or find us on Facebook. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.