Two of the biggest names in the industry, Tony Kushner and Steven Spielberg, collaborate on a film about Spielberg’s early life. Tony shares what it has been like to work with Spielberg over the years. The film, The Fabelman's is in limited release Nov 11 and everywhere Nov 23.

In this episode, we talk about…

Being fascinated by Steven Spielberg’s life story

How filmmaking helped to protect Spielberg as a youth by giving him control

Working together on films such as Munich and West Side Story

Battling one another during filmmaking

Recognizing when he can’t convince Spielberg and trusting his judgment

Keeping everyone focused on the outcome

A particular scene of The Fabelman’s - Spielberg’s genius idea



Memorable Quotes
“Because I think that’s the extraordinary thing about art, both for audiences and for artists. It’s a dream. But it has real life meaning and sometimes real life consequences.” [3:55]

“There’s a flash of insight that he has and it feels somewhat, kinda superhuman to me.” [5:50]

“Filming things is like a second nature to him…I think he makes things difficult for himself, to keep himself excited.” [9:55]

:”Steven is very open to the experiences of other human beings.” [11:39]


Mentioned in the episode:
The Fabelman’s


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