In today's episode Judith Germain speaks to Kate Hutson about the beauty in the discomfort, courageous leadership and how to reverse engineer for success. Kate shares her advice on how to become a manager even if you've never managed anyone before. They also talk about whether there is a standard leadership skill set or whether it's different for each person. They debate what is management v leadership, do you agree with their conclusion? Listen up to the rest of the conversation. Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com Company Website - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here.