In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Reverend Kevin Lewis from The Church of the Good Shepherd in Carshalton Beeches, about dealing with loss and grief around pivotal times of celebration. Kevin talks about how Christmas doesn't need to be jolly if you are griefing, and also how you can reach out to others if you need support. He shares how you can respond to others grief or loss to help them through difficult times, including children and young people. Learn a little about why Kevin is a Maverick and why he loves to run! Listen to this conversation as Kevin shares his thoughts about how to build community in organisations and the need to meet people where they are. Listen up whether you are a person of faith, little faith or no faith. The thoughts shared here are universal and applicable to all. Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com Company Website - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here.