How do we create a healthy volunteer culture so our church production ministries can thrive? How do we avoid burnout along the way and focus on God's calling in our lives rather than the obstacles in our path?  Andy call is the Co Lead Location Pastor at East Lake Church and he shares his 11+ years of experience on these topics in this week's pod. He also enjoys using his experience of launching churches to consult other church techs on the integrators and gear they should be using for their specific rooms. In this episode you'll hear: 0:30 Toby and Blake clean the floors 3:20 Toby, ladders and scissor lifts shouldn’t mix! 8:50 Andy Call joins us from East Lake Church! 13:00 Church planting 10114:40 The touring life with Phil Wickham and Lecrae 20:00 Working at East Lake Church 25:50 How Andy trains a new church tech volunteer 28:00 The Calling that keeps church technical leaders going 33:00 Creating a new production setup: vision, live stream & budget37:00 Managing production budgets and expectations 43:40 How to stay in your church tech Calling 46:20 Tech Takeaway on investing in people over production gear Plugs: You can reach out to Andrew for help at his email: andrew@visualtrend.io or connect with him on Instagram. Resources for your Church Tech MinistryDoes your church have used gear that you need to convert into new ministry dollars? We can make you an offer here. Do you need some production gear but lack the budget to buy new gear? You can get Certified Church Owned gear here.Connect with us: Follow us on FacebookHang out with us on InstagramSee all the ways we can serve your church on our WebsiteGet our best gear sent to your inbox each Monday before it goes public via the Early Service