Dimi Racordon joins Timur and Phil. They first have a couple more conference speaker calls, a new C++20 test framework, and and some updates about Safety in C++ and the C++ successor languages announced last year. Then they talk to Dimi Racordon about the new language, Val, how it relates to C++, and why mutable value semantics are so powerful. Show Notes News C++ Now Call for Speakers CppNorth Call for Speakers Snitch v1.0 - a “Lightweight C++20 testing framework” “The Year of C++ Successor Languages” - Lucian Radu Teodorescu “Supporting the Use of Rust in the Chromium Project” - Google Security Blog Links “I’ll Build Myself” - Phil’s song about building C++ P2739R0 - “A call to action: Think seriously about “safety”; then do something sensible about it” P2759R0 - “DG Opinion on Saftety for ISO C++” - “The Rule of Two” val-lang.dev - the official website for Val