With us this week is Shivam Bhatt of the podcast Commanderin' joins us to talk about this powerfully timely episode of The Simpsons. Shivam talks about his complicated history with the character of Apu and the character's depiction of Indian immigrants. And we dig deep into the immigration debate that this episode brings up, stuff that may as well be ripped out of today's headlines! It'll be a fun/angry episode, so listen to our sentimonies! This podcast is brought to you by VRV, the streaming network full of cartoons, anime and more. sign up for a free 30-day trial at VRV.co/WAC and help support Talking Simpsons! Support this podcast at Patreon.com/TalkingSimpsons!