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i am so thrilled to have on my friend,  michelle phan on the aubservation. she's such an inspiration to so many people for many reasons, but it is truly an honor to interview an OG youtube creator. michelle joined youtube in may of 2007 creating beauty and makeup videos!   in our interview, michelle takes us down her bitcoin journey, discusses meditation, her journey to being the founder of ipsy & em cosmetics, the controversy of bitcoin vs. crypto, and explains the "cult" conspiracies.   
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