Hey guys, thanks for listening to the No Bad Dogs podcast, I appreciate it! Today I sit down the internationally known dog trainer Michael Ellis. You may recognize Micheal from Leerburg's online training classes and videos. It was fantastic to sit down and chat with Micahel about everything in the dog training world! I also recorded and put the actual conversation between us on Youtube!  Follow Michael on Instagram- @michael_ellis_school Follow me! @tomdavis / @upstatecanine