This episode Mark Simmons, author of “Killing Keiko: The True Story of Free Willy’s Return to the Wild”, dissects the recent news about the plans to release Tokitae, the killer whale, and two Pacific white-sided dolphins, Li-i and Loke, into the waters of the Pacific Northwest.  Mark also discusses his talk at the 2023 conference, "Past is Prologue", which focused on the role of trainers in the preservation of species. Tune in for an amazing "Training Tale" from Mark where he recounts a time that Keiko seemly did the impossible only for trainers to learn that Keiko was just working smarter, not harder.  For questions or suggestions about the podcast, the news about the plans to release the three animals, or for Mark; email abc@theabma.org Let's talk some training!