This conversation with Historian Rowan Light is from a few years ago and in this episode have pulled out the part where we discussed the meaning of ANZAC Day, the role of history and historians and why we commemorate certain events and not others - check out his book Anzac Nations.  I hope you enjoy this as this is published on 25th April 2023 as we remember the past today: Lest We Forget.   Full interview is here: https://seeds.libsyn.com/historian-rowan-light-on-anzac-day-and-why-we-celebrate-a-defeat More on Rowan who is now based at Auckland University: https://profiles.auckland.ac.nz/rowan-light  "I am a historian of memory and commemoration, interested in public uses of the past and how communities make sense of war and violence. I am project curator (NZ Wars) at the Auckland War Memorial Museum, assisting the Human History team in the redevelopment of the New Zealand Wars gallery. My book Anzac Nations (OUP, 2022) is a history of cultural memory that explores how the story of the Anzacs at Gallipoli has changed overtime in Australia and New Zealand. I am interested in how groups and institutions shape the remembrance and commemoration of war and conflict." www.theseeds.nz for more