We speak & spell with Dave Gahan and Martin Gore of [the French fashion magazine] Depeche Mode. Truly, we just can’t get enough from these gents— from soccer fights and removing clutter, to The Berlin Wall… and “life to prolong,” you might as well just smash a bug on your forehead. Enjoy the Silence; Enjoy the SmartLess.Please support us by supporting our sponsors.This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/SMARTLESS and get on your way to being your best self.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.