What lessons do you learn when you've lit some of the biggest churches in America like Willow Creek, Bayside and Cherry Hills?  Chris Thomas has worked at all three and he drops by the podcast to give us his wisdom on how he has improved his lighting by improving the key relationships that he has with other roles in the church. In this episode you'll hear:2:00 Ross’s favorite Early Service videos so far 11:45 Chris Thomas joins us! 18:30 Blowing up a 400 amp25:00 From Willow Creek to Bayside to Cherry Hills 27:00 How are churches unknowingly causing church tech burnout?30:50 Lighting and Video need to be in sync 32:40 Theories over Rules of Thumb for lighting 33:20 Lighting for the room or for video35:25 How Chris got into church 38:45 Disaster story on shutting down rehearsal 41:45 Tech Takeaway on communicating with senior leadership wellPlugs:   None this week! Resources for your Church Tech MinistryDoes your church have used gear that you need to convert into new ministry dollars? We can make you an offer here. Do you need some production gear but lack the budget to buy new gear? You can get Certified Church Owned gear here.Connect with us: Follow us on FacebookHang out with us on InstagramSee all the ways we can serve your church on our WebsiteGet our best gear sent to your inbox each Monday before it goes public via the Early ServiceWe're hiring a Tech Director at ChurchGear! Check out the job posting here.