In this episode we talk about carbon markets, and emissions trading under Article 6 of the Paris Agreement. We look at Pakistan and the country's experiences, potential and needs when it comes to using Article 6 to both implement NDCs and raise climate finance and ambitions.The guests discuss why carbon markets can be crucial and why Pakistan in particular is interested in using Article 6.We also talk about what the barriers for using Article 6 and how the Supporting Preparedness for Article 6 Cooperation (or simply 'SPAR6C') programme can help Pakistan overcome them.Guests:Dr Saima Shafique, Ministry of Climate Change and Environmental Coordination of Pakistan, UNFCCC focal point and focal point for the SPAR6C ProgrammeKaren Olsen, UNEP carbon market coordinatorXianli Zhu, Article 6 lead for UNEP Copenhagen Climate Centre in Pakistan.