Welcome to episode 54 of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives.



This week, we bring you a very special joint episode of The Way Out Is In and Outrage + Optimism. From the peace and tranquility of the International Plum Village Community of Engaged Buddhism, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and leadership coach and journalist Jo Confino speak with Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac.



Christiana Figueres is one of the architects of the Paris Climate Agreement in 2015, student of Thich Nhat Hanh, and a valued member of the Plum Village Sangha. She was Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) from 2010 to 2016. She is the co-founder of Global Optimism, co-host of the podcast Outrage + Optimism and co-author of the bestselling book The Future We Choose: Surviving the Climate Crisis. 



Tom Rivett-Carnac is a political strategist, author, and podcaster who has spent more than 20 years working to address the climate and ecological crises. He is also a Founding Partner of Global Optimism, co-host of the podcast Outrage + Optimism, and co-author of The Future We Choose. 



Listeners of both podcasts are invited to join in on an intimate and deep conversation covering everything from the missing spiritual elements in the climate movement, moving beyond linear timelines into exponential transformation, and what happens when we all stop.



So bring your tea to the table and let the radical collaboration begin.







Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/



And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/ 



With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/







List of resourcesChristiana Figuereshttp://christianafigueres.com/#/ 



Tom Rivett-Carnachttps://www.globaloptimism.com/tom-rivett-carnac Listen to Brother Phap Linh perform ‘Music for Difficult Times’https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YarhXTDs8Z4



Zen and the Art of Saving the Planet https://www.harpercollins.com/products/zen-and-the-art-of-saving-the-planet-thich-nhat-hanh