This week Julius and I talk to Jason Tagmire of Button Shy games.  We talk about small games, design contests and the upcoming game ROVE.  It's going to be released on the Button Shy website on Black Friday.  Check it out, it's a neat little spatial puzzle of a game.
 
ROVE (BGG, Button Shy)
Button Shy Games (website, Discord, Patreon)
The Button Shop (website)