Hello, and welcome to another episode of Passive Real Estate Investing. I'm your host, Marco Santarelli. You know, I have an interesting episode for you today. It's about 45 minutes in length, great interview. I encourage you to stay to the very end. There are a couple of places in this interview that go a little deep and in, in complexity, but it'll all come together for you. You know, my guest today, Emmanuel Daniel, interesting guy. He's on the other side of the planet. As I was interviewing him, he was in Poland, but he's got this fascinating book called The Great Transition, and it's about the personalization of finance. He says it's here and it's accelerating. And in his book, he uses the story of the ice trade to describe how the world of finance transitions from a focus on digital platforms, which is what we have today to a, a level, a micro level, is what I call it, but a level of personalization that we've never seen before.

It's happening, it's been happening for years, and it's accelerating. And all of this will have a profound effect on how institutions all around us, all institutions, markets, and societies will function in the the coming age, what he refers to as the network age, where we're all connected digitally. And he introduces a term called the financialization of everything. And I ask him to break it down into a fair amount of detail and what that means and how it applies to all of us. It, it, it literally will touch and penetrate each and every one of us and everything we do. But I ask him to describe it, and he describes digitization that will transform all economies around the world. But at the same time, it'll also enhance, you know, everybody's receptivity, , if that's a real word, you know, towards all kinds of technologies, from cryptocurrencies and crypto assets to blockchain technology, to artificial intelligence, to just being able to control your own finances, meaning that it is controlled by your own person.

It's decentralized. It's not centralized around an institution like a bank or a lending institution or even the government for that matter. But these are trends that are happening now and will shape everything in society. So, you know, his book is a collection of all these original ideas, and he expands upon them. And it's not a boring dry topic, it's just happening all around you, and you just have to kind of be aware of it and open your eyes and see that it's actually happening. So anyway, it's, it was a great interview. I'm obviously recording this intro after the interview, which I just finished, so I hope you enjoy it. Take in as much as you can, and if at all possible, you know, just break your listen time into two and listen to this in two parts. But try to get through to the end, and I, I'm sure you'll you'll get a lot of value out of this. So that is it. Let's move right into that interview. I hope you enjoy it.

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Well, it is my honor and pleasure to welcome Emmanuel Daniel to the show. He is a global thought leader in the future of finance, and I've been looking forward to this interview. He is definitely an entrepreneur and a writer, and he is listed as a top 10 global influencer in the FinTech Power 50 list in 2021. And in 2022, Emmanuel was trained as a lawyer. He has degrees from the National University of Singapore and the University of London. He travels widely and divides his time between Singapore, Beijing, and New York. And Emmanuel, welcome to the show.

Marco. Very happy and excited to be on your show. There's so many different ways in which we can slice this, this conversation. Yeah. So take it away.

Yeah, definitely. Well, you travel a lot and you know, we were just talking for a few minutes before I started recording the interview here...