In this episode, Joey and I sat down to discuss what it means to opt out of various mainstream systems—public school, pharmaceutical-first medical care, and traditional medical insurance. Tune in to hear our candid conversation on the public school system, routine childhood vaccinations, medical insurance, and more.Episode references:Samaritan Ministries, basic plan Immunity Education Find HomegrownInstagram // @homegrown_education, @lizhaselmayer, @joeyhaselmayerWebsite // homegrowneducation.orgNatural Home Goods // shoptheh.com @haselmayergoods