Professional chefs and home cooks alike fantasize about culinary retreats--long, leisurely stays in food-centric regions where we can lose ourselves in market visits, farm and vineyard tours, improvisational cooking, and--of course--sharing lavish meals with old and new friends. Author Lisa Donovan, who wrote the rightly celebrated Our Lady of Perpetual Hunger and is one of the US's most acclaimed bakers and pastry chefs, has knitted together her various passions and pastimes and co-founded (with Julie Belcher) Reverie, through which they lovingly plan culinary retreats in destinations such as Toulouse and Normandy, where hosts and guests cook, travel, and learn together. On this episode of the pod, Lisa calls in to talk about Reverie and its forthcoming slate of 2024 retreats featuring guest co-hosts/chefs such as Nina Compton and Tara Jensen.This episode is brought to you in part by meez, the recipe operating system for culinary professionals. Try out their free basic version today.Andrew’s next book The Dish: The Lives and Labor Behind One Plate of Food is now available for preorder! Please consider purchasing your copy/copies in advance and help the book have a great lift-off.Andrew Talks to Chefs is a fully independent podcast and no longer affiliated with our former host network; please visit and bookmark our official website for all show updates, blog posts, personal and virtual appearances, and related news.