Julian Chapman is the President of Forrest & Company, an organizational transformation firm that helps companies achieve strategic competitive advantage through consulting, coaching, and training. He is also the author of The Managerial Leadership Journey: An Unconventional Business Pursuit. We discuss what it means to be a servant leader, the science of structuring an organization, and the difference between military and business leadership.
 
Time Stamps
[00:30] Julian's entrepreneurial journey 
[01:31] Difference between military and business leadership
[03:18] Army leadership principles that don't apply to business leadership 
[05:01] How military leaders use empowerment to build trust and excellence
[06:19] The Leading Leaders and Managing Managers framework
[08:47] Key differences between leadership and management
[11:30] What it means to be a servant leader
[13:20] Was Winston Churchill a servant leader? 
[14:50] How to become a transformational leader
[17:13] How Julian and his team grow leaders of character
[20:56] The science of how to structure an organization
[22:14] Four factors that define human capability 
[24:47] The intersection between cognitive skills and leadership performance
[27:48] Dissecting the Managerial Leadership Journey
[30:28] Parting thoughts 
 
Links and Resources
Steve and Greg Cleary's Book: Pinnacle: Five Principles that Take Your Business to the Top of the Mountain
Julian's LinkedIn
Julian's website - Forrestandco.com
Managerialleadershipjourney.com
The Managerial Leadership Journey: An Unconventional Business Pursuit by Julian Chapman
The Pursuit of Prime by Ichak Adizes Ph.D. 
Work with Steve - Stevepreda.com