Gojo sits down with Washington Huskies head football coach Kalen DeBoer (00:58) to talk about his first season in Seattle, coaching with your old teammates, what makes his QB Michael Penix Jr special, and Midwest chain restaurants. Gojo then welcomes in Michigan State head football coach Mel Tucker (23:05) to talk about leading with “why” when coaching, what went into their 2021 turnaround, being a Cool Dad/Coach, the 2015 Alabama Staff, and where MSU goes next. Gojo finishes up with this week's Thicc Six picks and This, That, and the Third (50:06): Kyrie Irving down bad, Federer retiring, and the ÑFL.
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