This episode features a conversation with Markus Reymann, Director of the research center and cultural ecosystem, TBA21–Academy. It was recorded in September 2022. The organisation, which Markus co-founded back in 2011, fosters interdisciplinary dialogue and exchange surrounding the most urgent ecological, social, and economic issues facing the ocean today. In his role, Markus leads the non-profit’s engagement with artists, activists, scientists, and policy-makers across the globe, catalysing new commissions, bodies of knowledge, and policies that advance the conservation and protection of the ocean. He also serves as Chair of Alligator Head Foundation, the scientific partner of TBA21–Academy, which maintains the East Portland Fish Sanctuary and oversees a marine wet laboratory in Jamaica. Markus has presented on art and the oceans at conferences around the world, and represents TBA21–Academy in the Mission Healthy Oceans Board, as an officially endorsed Member of UNESCO’s Decade of Ocean Science, and as an observer at the International Seabed Authority.Our discussion weaves through the many and varied ways that art can respond to the climate crisis, how it can serve as a bridge between the public and an array of knowledge systems - including, but not limited to - science, and, amongst other things, what sets art apart as a means to connect with an audience. Additional links:TBA21-Academy websiteOcean Space in VeniceJoan Jonas - Moving Off the Land IIJana Winderen - Between Dry Land